wendyzski: (OMGhamster)
wendyzski ([personal profile] wendyzski) wrote2007-04-30 09:16 pm

Heroes

....was very cool

(except I totally don't buy Peter/Nikki no matter WHAT happened. Eeeeew. I know he's got that "white knight" thing and probably wanted to "save her, but again with the eeeeew.)

Poor future-Hiro all obsessy and stuff. And young-Hiro is all "now I know what I must do". Except......

He's relying on faulty data.

The whole "save the cheerleader save the world" and "you have to kill Sylar" only makes sense if Sylar went all 'splody. But he didn't. Peter did. AND Nathan got killded somewhere that wasn't accounted for in the causative-string-theory.

So they only THINK they know what they need to do - and it's WRONG!

Time-travel plotlines make my head all hurty.

[identity profile] brassangel.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
ack! time-zone spoilers!

j/k I can deal with it.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
you could always go back in time and tell yourself not to read LJ yet.

[identity profile] brassangel.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
:snarf:

dont make me snort when i'm eating speargrass. Bad things happen

[identity profile] justphoenix.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Peter/Nikki == NO chemistry

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
chemistry(Peter/Nikki) == false

chemistry(Bad-ass angsty emo Vegas Peter/Jessica) == ?

[identity profile] justphoenix.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Am I the only one who was hoping future Peter would be a Vegas showgirl?

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, we've not yet seen him on stage. Maybe, before the series is over, they'll turn him into Carmen Miranda.

Start up that letter-writing campaign, girl!

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I was thinking high-stakes gambler.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
When they were talking, they specifically said that Jessica was gone.

Peter would NEVER hang out with Jessica - on paper I could see him wanting to "save" Nikki - that whole hospice-nurse thing. But total lack of on-screen chemistry.

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Hasn't Nikki claimed before that Jessica was gone? Perhaps it could have been Jessica masquerading as Nikki who claimed that Jessica was gone...

I think, with the darker overall tone that the future took, some of them would've done things that would've earlier been out of character. Hiro taking his dramatic turn was a complete character shift, after all.

[identity profile] geekymary.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
It seems they have two problems. One is stopping Peter from going nuclear, and the other is killing Sylar. Hiro seems to be tasked with the latter.

David had a good point - Sylar would have totally eaten Parkman's brain. How could he resist being able to read minds?

[identity profile] daryljfontaine.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
He can resist as long as Parkman is useful to him as a field agent -- finding the other supers. Once that usefulness is ended, Parkman undergoes Brain Salad Surgery.

My wife's point was: at the final confrontation of ubersupers, Peter vs. Sylar, Sylar gives up the game, telling all. Why doesn't Parkman overhear this and try to stop him? The idea of Parkman as Sylar-collaborator doesn't quite gel.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
While Parkman CAN overhear general mental chatter in present time, all the times he used his power in the future he did so by choosing to concentrate. One could assume from that that he has gotten more selective in his abilities - in effect his "squelch" is working better.

Plus, he was totally concentrating on what he figured was ready to come thru that door.

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it's not like it's a bad thing to kill Sylar.

If everything's going to 'splode anyhow, he might as well kill Sylar, you know?

[identity profile] daryljfontaine.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This was the theory that had my wife telling me I overthink these things: have we established that Sylar needs a living victim to study the brain and get the power? Or, more directly, did we establish that Future Hiro might not have had just a tiny spark of life left in him?

Because how much would it totally suck for the heroes to be set up to kill Sylar and possibly prevent The Petrelli Effect from taking out NYC, only to have Future Sylar (now with extra Claire Bennett Healing Factor), fresh from comprehending Future Hiro's time travel power, show up ready to commit mayhem?

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 06:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there was the one girl who shot herself to prevent Sylar from eating her brain.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Her name was Eden - she was the one with the command voice. (her online comic story was very very sad)

[identity profile] petronivs.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
She was cute, too. 'Twas a shame.

[identity profile] wendyzski.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
have we established that Sylar needs a living victim to study the brain and get the power?

Yes - Eden blew her brains out to avoid giving Sylar access to her powers.

Or, more directly, did we establish that Future Hiro might not have had just a tiny spark of life left in him?

Well, he did do the dramatic "lean up slightly like he might make it and then fall back limply", which is usually a clue. Plus, Sylar is a mite distracted at the moment by Dark-Phoenix-Peter. Am suspecting that even if it DOES end in a draw, Future-Hiro would be kind of cold and stiff by that time.

[identity profile] daryljfontaine.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes - Eden blew her brains out to avoid giving Sylar access to her powers.

True, but if the kill left the brain intact...? Eden's suicide was a pretty final way of saying, "No you can't have the pretty power clockwork in my head, cause I'm gonna smash it to bits."

At any rate, I was already told this was too much overthinking. ^_^